The Relationship of Saleen and Ford, is not Aftermarket items. They take the mustangs, and strip them down to the bare frame itself on every single Stage no matter which model Saleen you get. And rebuild them from the grounds up. Do yourself a favor, go research and then you will understand this. So Therefore its not an aftermarket company who supply's bits an pieces for the motor itself. BTY, they also redesign and strength the frames itself.

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The M3's powerplant is an amazing engine and is better in every way possible compared to the sad excuse that Ford passed off as a motor and dumped into the Mustang which brings me back to my original point. Saleen polished a turd and HPF polished a diamond but they are both tunned, both not stock and both using forced induction. If Saleen were to use their own motor and turbo that then it would be a much different outcome (think second-gen Saleen S7.)

You keep saying the race isn't fair because it's not a modded Saleen? Are you half-retarded? Saleen is an aftermarket tunning company same as HorsePowerFreaks. Just because you can order a Saleen through the stealership doesn't mean that it's stock, it just means Ford realized their products are crap and needed a name and quality parts from Saleen. Now from an engineering standpoint the race isn't even close to fair.

You keep contradicting everything you say, just stop talking and enjoy the video. A "stock" M3 would compare to a "stock" Mustang SVT. Motorsport is BMW's in-house performance division just like SVT is Ford's in-house performance division. HorsepowerFreaks and Saleen are both outside tunning companies. Saleen makes some badd ass stuff but Ford is crap so they don't have much to start with in this instance but either way both cars are even in the sense that neither is stock and both are using FI.

oops I meant to say ford DOESNT recognize Saleens as mustangs.

Was that Saleen sold with all its specs? Yes. so its stock. Was that M3 sold with the horsepower freak turbo? No. So one of the two is modded isn't? M3 aren't turboed. Ford recognize Saleens as mustangs, IE: Transformers was suppose to use a Mustang GT for Barricade but Ford denied using their car in that movie. so they went to Saleen and Saleen used their car and it was approved on their behalf. Saleen and mustang aren't the same thing, they dont even use the same engines just the same body.

yeah and all those things come STOCK with that saleen model, there is no aftermarket crap in there its all made by saleen. unlike the M3. its not a fair comparison. thats like putting a stock m3 against a modded turboed m3 and saying they're both modded. Yes Saleen took the Mustang and tweaked it the same way Motorsport took the BMW 340i and tweaked it, but they're the companies that sell them with those parts... their stock. that M3 is modded and that Saleen is stock. thats what I'm saying

LoL.. oh god.. its an extreme S281 how much more modded can u get. The new H302 extreme has over 600HP this one has 580HP.. this is a stock Horsepower Freak M3. and a mustang doesnt come supercharged stock but this saleen has one.

dumbass.. want call saleen stock. then thats a stock Horsepower Freak M3.. S281 Extreme is fastest saleen mustang.

I dont know what you're talking about. the Saleen S281-E, '08 GT500, and Super Snake are all faster than the SVT. the engines kind of make up for the weight and then some.

so lets put modded saleen against that modded M3, that makes more sense doesn't it?

except that was a modded M as M's aren't turboed verse a stock saleen. had the match been done on equal terms the saleen would have won.

like thats really gunna do much!

its an extreme it has the cf diffuser on the rear

I don't think the saleen is S281 E , It's S281 SC witch is 450 HP all of u check out the back window if it's an E model it should be closed with no class in it

Ya, it would...

my point is it will kill a stock m3

That Saleen just got spanked.....

And your point is?

///M Power prevails again :P

THE SALEEN HAS A BIGGER ENGINE

fuck you the supersnake can run about 165 in 5th gear and about 200 in the 6th.

true, but thats where price difference becomes an issue. GT500 for 50k or z06 for 70k. i personally wouldn't buy either but 20k is a lot of money for 1 second faster

but pit a stock z06 against a stock gt500. a z06 runs 11s. STOCK.